tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post3043432321733916514..comments2023-10-27T20:27:57.900-04:00Comments on Kid Dynamite's World: No - People Are Not Collecting 13 More Months of Unemployment BenefitsKid Dynamitehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17475987512856310577noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-40513207433138691792010-12-18T22:03:35.429-05:002010-12-18T22:03:35.429-05:00wait unitl after xmas all those seasonal jobs will...wait unitl after xmas all those seasonal jobs will be gone, Kd ty for thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-57695187479025760422010-12-17T20:21:05.796-05:002010-12-17T20:21:05.796-05:00Given there is not drastic disparity among states ...Given there is not drastic disparity among states this link should explain the main gist.<br /><br />http://www.labor.state.ny.us/ui/claimantinfo/extendedbenefits.shtmmjsflashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12561885134617848249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-66982321650476190152010-12-10T23:19:16.388-05:002010-12-10T23:19:16.388-05:00Great job digging out
"...what it said is th...Great job digging out<br /><br />"...what it said is that if the extensions were not instituted, employment would decrease by 600k."<br /><br />Lies all over the place.George Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11388361981177660389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-30159908564199767202010-12-10T20:13:15.745-05:002010-12-10T20:13:15.745-05:00anon
The weekly number we get on Thurs (which I a...anon<br /><br />The weekly number we get on Thurs (which I assume you're referring to) is INITIAL claims, and so it's not relevant.Onlookerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07742157936955263465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-74749287226839674632010-12-10T19:44:16.632-05:002010-12-10T19:44:16.632-05:00anon - i'm not sure what you mean - it will be...anon - i'm not sure what you mean - it will be the same as it has been. the Extended Benefits have already been separated out on the claims numbersKid Dynamitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475987512856310577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-69534935194506417132010-12-10T19:41:35.465-05:002010-12-10T19:41:35.465-05:00KD,
Will it "interfere" with weekly cla...KD,<br /><br />Will it "interfere" with weekly claims job, as 99wks expired mean less claim?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-68158427504093567862010-12-10T13:16:59.389-05:002010-12-10T13:16:59.389-05:00obama said "for the hardest hit". which ...obama said "for the hardest hit". which turns out to be a lie. Congress and the President should be adding more weeks for the hardest hit. Instead they are playing a propaganda word game on the people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-22127311975396513192010-12-09T11:16:25.034-05:002010-12-09T11:16:25.034-05:00Watching Fox News the last couple days it sure see...Watching Fox News the last couple days it sure seems convenient the way that the hosts and guests don't seem to describe the unemployment provision in a way that makes it clear what it actually does. It's almost like they want people to misinterpret it or something...KHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-16747163152282308442010-12-08T18:45:40.994-05:002010-12-08T18:45:40.994-05:00that's an excellent question, Stephen, and i t...that's an excellent question, Stephen, and i think the answer comes from people who were involved in what the debate actually was - the public was confused about what was actually being argued. I couldn't believe CR was correct, but a number of other sources have told me that's exactly the case.Kid Dynamitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475987512856310577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-6142779494294481632010-12-08T18:40:46.508-05:002010-12-08T18:40:46.508-05:00i totally understand your point about the "ex...i totally understand your point about the "extension of the unemployment benefits" meaning an extension of the qualifying dates for the various tiers of benefits, and not additional weeks of benefits. but where are you and calculated risk and others finding out the truth if nothing is written but that fact sheet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-26506782311782430932010-12-08T18:34:12.574-05:002010-12-08T18:34:12.574-05:00stephen - no text yet. that's exactly the pro...stephen - no text yet. that's exactly the problem. the White House fact sheet almost hints at the truth though.Kid Dynamitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475987512856310577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-91974311029308351302010-12-08T18:32:33.983-05:002010-12-08T18:32:33.983-05:00kid dynamite,
is there somewhere you can actually ...kid dynamite,<br />is there somewhere you can actually read the text of the "Framework agreement?" where are you seeing that the qualifying period was extended, not the amount of weeks someone would get? you certainly can't tell that from reading the white house's press release.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-35938047387363585672010-12-08T17:40:48.198-05:002010-12-08T17:40:48.198-05:00Soooo the president I voted for sold us, the 99ers...Soooo the president I voted for sold us, the 99ers, for 99c to the republicans...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-18055639131057772792010-12-08T16:47:39.192-05:002010-12-08T16:47:39.192-05:00In a nutshell, MWP provides a tax credit equal to ...In a nutshell, MWP provides a tax credit equal to 6.2% of earned income (up to $400 for single and $800 for married filers). The tax deal proposes eliminating this and instead instituting a 2% SS payroll tax cut. The way I figure it, this is better for those earning more than $20K (single) or $40K (married) but worse for those making less than that (they would actually see a tax increase). And don't forget, the MWP is a credit that can actually turn into a refund for low wage earners, just like the Earned Income Credit.<br /><br />In any case, the proposed deal would amount to a tax increase on low wage earners. This was certainly not elucidated by anyone in the MSM as far as I can see. I'm sure the Republicans don't care, but I can't figure out Obama's motivation in this--maybe he just couldn't do the math.But What do I Know?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-41064230334610339842010-12-08T15:48:10.447-05:002010-12-08T15:48:10.447-05:00sorry BWDIK - I'm not up on Making Work Paysorry BWDIK - I'm not up on Making Work PayKid Dynamitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475987512856310577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-40517988223734968032010-12-08T15:42:43.963-05:002010-12-08T15:42:43.963-05:00Aw, Hammer Player beat me to it! Congrats Kid on ...Aw, Hammer Player beat me to it! Congrats Kid on contributing greatly to the discussion on this. . .<br /><br />For an encore, O Mighty One, can you highlight how all the low wage earners are getting screwed by the switch from Making Work Pay credits to payroll tax deductions?But What do I Know?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-4891028947454363452010-12-08T15:09:49.774-05:002010-12-08T15:09:49.774-05:00Check it out, KD! From the homepage of Yahoo! Fin...Check it out, KD! From the homepage of Yahoo! Finance at 3pm ET on Wednesday:<br /><br />http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Sorry-If-You-Have-Been-cnbc-3642584498.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=9&asset=&ccode=Hammer Player a.k.a Hoyazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031535857121915911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-72375451235116114452010-12-08T14:57:16.510-05:002010-12-08T14:57:16.510-05:00I was in your shoes on this as well, KD. How coul...I was in your shoes on this as well, KD. How could we not have misunderstood it, the way the media reported it, and the misleading words coming out of our president's mouth?<br /><br />And the only place I saw a clear explanation of it was at CR. Although I'll admit that I didn't scour the mainstream media to try to find a better, more complete, explanation.<br /><br />I'll bet there are some "99ers" out there that are getting whiplashed by this, eh? As usual, it's a convoluted mess of bureaucratic crap, courtesy of the guvmint.Onlookerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07742157936955263465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-9075368410616746082010-12-08T14:50:08.729-05:002010-12-08T14:50:08.729-05:00As Always...Great Post Kid!As Always...Great Post Kid!JayTraderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03083309941675377474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-82120594583015818152010-12-08T14:19:17.207-05:002010-12-08T14:19:17.207-05:00So it is an even bigger win for the Repubs. Intere...So it is an even bigger win for the Repubs. Interesting. <br /><br />One would have thought the White House would have stopped making any claims about jobs being saved or created.StBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01363699522256218332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-30277616275821577112010-12-08T13:19:11.038-05:002010-12-08T13:19:11.038-05:00Thx for this helpful postThx for this helpful postAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-67731895436982526132010-12-08T12:29:42.190-05:002010-12-08T12:29:42.190-05:00You know, KD, a guy in my office was going on abou...You know, KD, a guy in my office was going on about how irresponsible it was to give lazy people another year of unemployment--and how fiscally irresponsible that was. I sent him the Calculated Risk post, and to his credit he thanked me and changed his tune. But how many other people out there will see the headlines and assume they're getting more dough, and be pissed off when they don't?<br /><br />Also, I didn't read anywhere but on Prag Cap that the Making Work Pay credit was being ended. This has the net effect of balancing out the 2% payroll tax cut for singles up to $20K and marrieds up to $40K. With the median household income at somewhere around $45K if I understand rightly, at least half of the people are not really getting anything. But again, I didn't really see any commentary on that either.But What do I Know?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-70225500192821152442010-12-08T10:09:23.890-05:002010-12-08T10:09:23.890-05:00Posts like this are why serious bloggers like you ...Posts like this are why serious bloggers like you perform such an important public service. It is such a chore for busy people to have to decipher official information that should be clear on its face.Transor Znoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-33427729249208041322010-12-08T09:09:12.570-05:002010-12-08T09:09:12.570-05:00All the stuff about how any of these moves will &q...All the stuff about how any of these moves will "create jobs" is complete garbage of course. Just designed to make the current administration look good to the uninformed masses, and nothing more.<br /><br />And yes, I too had understood the UI extension to mean going beyond 99 weeks, and I too looked into it and found it not to be the case. More deliberate mis-wording to make the uninformed masses think they are getting more than they actually are.<br /><br />Apparently the push for re-election has already started at Chez Obama.Hammer Player a.k.a Hoyazohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031535857121915911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14963913.post-68295362348182822682010-12-08T08:54:51.753-05:002010-12-08T08:54:51.753-05:00Dis - that's a great question... i wonder.
Ne...Dis - that's a great question... i wonder.<br /><br />Nemo - yeah, the theory is, of course, that if Uncle Sam gives you benefits, you spend them and prevent someone ELSE from losing their job. again, SAVED vs CREATEDKid Dynamitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475987512856310577noreply@blogger.com